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		<title>By: LilaHolden27</title>
		<link>http://www.slashhug.net/dual-specs-an-anti-rant/comment-page-1/#comment-1081</link>
		<dc:creator>LilaHolden27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 15:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Valiaerael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valiaerael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Apr 2009 03:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not too concerned about the fear that dual specs will kill the utility that is my rogue main. Bliz has already said that cc will be important again starting in Ulduar, so that means mages, rogues, and hunters will still be useful. Add to that the abilities like misdirect and (I&#039;m sorry mages, but its true) conjured refreshments, well, we&#039;ll still be wanted. Besides, everyone&#039;s a dk now anyway.

As a side note, I also have a hybrid spec alt that I play and I intend to utilize dual spec with her. She&#039;s a holy pally, she will always be a holy pally, and I will raid as a holy pally. But now I can daily as ret every day and actually kill something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not too concerned about the fear that dual specs will kill the utility that is my rogue main. Bliz has already said that cc will be important again starting in Ulduar, so that means mages, rogues, and hunters will still be useful. Add to that the abilities like misdirect and (I&#8217;m sorry mages, but its true) conjured refreshments, well, we&#8217;ll still be wanted. Besides, everyone&#8217;s a dk now anyway.</p>
<p>As a side note, I also have a hybrid spec alt that I play and I intend to utilize dual spec with her. She&#8217;s a holy pally, she will always be a holy pally, and I will raid as a holy pally. But now I can daily as ret every day and actually kill something.</p>
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		<title>By: Soozah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soozah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m really enjoying this thread.  Lots of good (and bad) viewpoints, but there is another
point of view that I haven&#039;t seen.  I, personally, don&#039;t enjoy PVP, but I Love the priest class.  I play with my family and my hunter husband hates it when I try to dps when I&#039;m supposed to be the healer.  Darn it! I like nuking things!  So now I can be a Holy/Shadow priest and he can stop whining/complaining.  I&#039;ll be a Holy when we play together and a Shadow when I&#039;m on my own - gathering for the family or just feel like kicking the crap out of things.  I hated respecking thus why I have a level 70 holy Troll and a level 64 shadow BE on the same server.  I also enjoy playing a hunter (not to out perform my husband), but having that pet makes leveling more fun and gathering that much easier.  It sure would be nice to get those cool beastmaster pets, but I&#039;m a marksman who really doesn&#039;t want to give up all that power.  So now I can have them both.  When I feel like stomping around with my giant dinosaur or core hound (insert your favorite exotic pet here) I can visit the stable master and let him loose on low level mobs while I gather to my hearts content.  Then when it&#039;s time for serious questing switch back to marksman and enjoy my other non-exotic pets.  Oh yeah, I know Blizzard would rather I PVP, but all that really matters is I pay my monthly fee to keep the machine&#039;s wheels turning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying this thread.  Lots of good (and bad) viewpoints, but there is another<br />
point of view that I haven&#8217;t seen.  I, personally, don&#8217;t enjoy PVP, but I Love the priest class.  I play with my family and my hunter husband hates it when I try to dps when I&#8217;m supposed to be the healer.  Darn it! I like nuking things!  So now I can be a Holy/Shadow priest and he can stop whining/complaining.  I&#8217;ll be a Holy when we play together and a Shadow when I&#8217;m on my own &#8211; gathering for the family or just feel like kicking the crap out of things.  I hated respecking thus why I have a level 70 holy Troll and a level 64 shadow BE on the same server.  I also enjoy playing a hunter (not to out perform my husband), but having that pet makes leveling more fun and gathering that much easier.  It sure would be nice to get those cool beastmaster pets, but I&#8217;m a marksman who really doesn&#8217;t want to give up all that power.  So now I can have them both.  When I feel like stomping around with my giant dinosaur or core hound (insert your favorite exotic pet here) I can visit the stable master and let him loose on low level mobs while I gather to my hearts content.  Then when it&#8217;s time for serious questing switch back to marksman and enjoy my other non-exotic pets.  Oh yeah, I know Blizzard would rather I PVP, but all that really matters is I pay my monthly fee to keep the machine&#8217;s wheels turning.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with this post, duel specs are nice. I&#039;m a priest and it would be nice to be a disc priest as my main healing build, but also have a holy spec for when I need better AOE heals, just depends on the instance I&#039;m doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with this post, duel specs are nice. I&#8217;m a priest and it would be nice to be a disc priest as my main healing build, but also have a holy spec for when I need better AOE heals, just depends on the instance I&#8217;m doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:10:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it just be super cool if you can attend 2- 10man Nax raids on one character in one week.  One for each spec. (assuming you didnt use the other spec in the same raid)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it just be super cool if you can attend 2- 10man Nax raids on one character in one week.  One for each spec. (assuming you didnt use the other spec in the same raid)</p>
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		<title>By: Dual Specs and Why I Don&#8217;t Think They&#8217;ll Suck - Banana Shoulders</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dual Specs and Why I Don&#8217;t Think They&#8217;ll Suck - Banana Shoulders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Spinksville points out that the issue is with raid design, not hybrids, and Aurik of /Hug posts an anti-rant in support of dual specs. There are doubtless many other posts I&#8217;ve missed, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Spinksville points out that the issue is with raid design, not hybrids, and Aurik of /Hug posts an anti-rant in support of dual specs. There are doubtless many other posts I&#8217;ve missed, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Adirix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adirix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As my two main characters are a DK - which I like to respec between tank and dps - and a holy pally - who is quite slow questing - I&#039;m probably somewhat biased in my opinion that dual specs are a good thing.

I&#039;m not exactly happy with the cost of 1k, but that&#039;s probably due to the fact that I&#039;m an in-game spendaholic who can barely stay above 100g, and less due to the overall idea of the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As my two main characters are a DK &#8211; which I like to respec between tank and dps &#8211; and a holy pally &#8211; who is quite slow questing &#8211; I&#8217;m probably somewhat biased in my opinion that dual specs are a good thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not exactly happy with the cost of 1k, but that&#8217;s probably due to the fact that I&#8217;m an in-game spendaholic who can barely stay above 100g, and less due to the overall idea of the fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Stabs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stabs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 02:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice summary

We&#039;ll have to see how things play out in 3.1 but hopefully the net effect of this change is that more raids and instance groups happen than otherwise would have.

For instance a 5 man pug with Fury Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Balance Druid and Enhancement Shaman currently has zero chance of pugging a heroic. After dual specs come in maybe they can get to enjoy more instancing and less queueing.

I have certainly been in the situation where raids have been cancelled when needed specs don&#039;t turn up and it can be very demoralising and bad for the guild concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice summary</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll have to see how things play out in 3.1 but hopefully the net effect of this change is that more raids and instance groups happen than otherwise would have.</p>
<p>For instance a 5 man pug with Fury Warrior, Rogue, Mage, Balance Druid and Enhancement Shaman currently has zero chance of pugging a heroic. After dual specs come in maybe they can get to enjoy more instancing and less queueing.</p>
<p>I have certainly been in the situation where raids have been cancelled when needed specs don&#8217;t turn up and it can be very demoralising and bad for the guild concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: wildoatmeal</title>
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		<dc:creator>wildoatmeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 17:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Personally, I think this is going to lessen pugging overall in the game, as pug raid leads will not want the headaches of asking 10+ players all about their dual specs for a raid group that is not too well or guild organized to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally, I think this is going to lessen pugging overall in the game, as pug raid leads will not want the headaches of asking 10+ players all about their dual specs for a raid group that is not too well or guild organized to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Indigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Indigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 03:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised so many &quot;pure&quot; DPS&#039;ers seem concerned that raids in the future will suddenly be 25 hybrid classes so you can have 12 healers and 13 tanks if needed. Why should a raidleader who knows what he&#039;s doing pick someone with a DPS offspec they rarely play over someone playing a DPS class for years and being really good at it, only to have 3 more healers and 3 more tanks in the raid which will never be needed anyway? You can&#039;t change specs and gear in combat, so &quot;jumping in when a healer dies&quot; is something you won&#039;t see happen with dual spec. There are no encounters so far where you&#039;d suddenly need 3-5 extra healers or tanks. And if you&#039;re a healer or tank short for a raid, what does your guild do atm? Ask a hybrid with good offspec gear to spec tank for 1 raid. The only difference will be, that in the future, that respec won&#039;t always cost 100g anymore. 
I have my doubts even the top raidguilds will, in the future, only or mainly pick hybrids for their raids. What for? You don&#039;t need 10 healers or 5 tanks for any fight. You don&#039;t need half the group to be able to respec during the raid. Yes, maybe 1 spot or 2 might go to people who can respec on the fly during the raid. But where is that different from those people porting out of the instance to see the class trainer and get summoned back if a respec is really neccessary? You&#039;re already taking those 1 or 2 people along on your raids atm anyway, you just save them the extra 100g per night if they get asked to respec. 
If your DPS is higher than that of the other DPS&#039;ers competing with you for the spot, why should someone with a healing/tanking offspec be chosen when there will be no need for that additional healer or tank on the raid? Just because it&#039;s possible to raid with 25 hybrids that all have a tank/healing + DPS spec, it doesn&#039;t mean it would actually be better or in any way more useful to indeed do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised so many &#8220;pure&#8221; DPS&#8217;ers seem concerned that raids in the future will suddenly be 25 hybrid classes so you can have 12 healers and 13 tanks if needed. Why should a raidleader who knows what he&#8217;s doing pick someone with a DPS offspec they rarely play over someone playing a DPS class for years and being really good at it, only to have 3 more healers and 3 more tanks in the raid which will never be needed anyway? You can&#8217;t change specs and gear in combat, so &#8220;jumping in when a healer dies&#8221; is something you won&#8217;t see happen with dual spec. There are no encounters so far where you&#8217;d suddenly need 3-5 extra healers or tanks. And if you&#8217;re a healer or tank short for a raid, what does your guild do atm? Ask a hybrid with good offspec gear to spec tank for 1 raid. The only difference will be, that in the future, that respec won&#8217;t always cost 100g anymore.<br />
I have my doubts even the top raidguilds will, in the future, only or mainly pick hybrids for their raids. What for? You don&#8217;t need 10 healers or 5 tanks for any fight. You don&#8217;t need half the group to be able to respec during the raid. Yes, maybe 1 spot or 2 might go to people who can respec on the fly during the raid. But where is that different from those people porting out of the instance to see the class trainer and get summoned back if a respec is really neccessary? You&#8217;re already taking those 1 or 2 people along on your raids atm anyway, you just save them the extra 100g per night if they get asked to respec.<br />
If your DPS is higher than that of the other DPS&#8217;ers competing with you for the spot, why should someone with a healing/tanking offspec be chosen when there will be no need for that additional healer or tank on the raid? Just because it&#8217;s possible to raid with 25 hybrids that all have a tank/healing + DPS spec, it doesn&#8217;t mean it would actually be better or in any way more useful to indeed do so.</p>
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